Wrong For Guards To Ask for ID Documents

LETTER TO THE STAR

I REFER to the SMS sent by a reader on the issue of whether security guards in apartments or condos have the right to inspect and retain a visitor’s identity card. This practice is common in both stratified and non-stratified residential areas.

With reference to the National Registration Regulations 1990, these security guards do not have the authority or power to inspect or detain a visitor’s identity card.

Regulation 7 on the production and inspection of identity card states:

Any registration officer, police officer, customs officer or any member of the armed forces while on duty, and any other officer or class or description of public officer authorised in writing in that behalf by the director-general may inspect the identity of any person.


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LETTERS
Friday, 31 Aug 2018

TAGS / KEYWORDS:
Letters , Security , MyKad , IC

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/2018/08/31/wrong-to-retain-documents/#um08DUrJRI4fmRUJ.99

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*[Pengawal keselamatan yang bertugas di kediaman awam "G&G" tidak formal - tidak dibenarkan meminta dokumen identiti seperti MyKad ataupun lesen memandu daripada pihak awam. Mereka hanya dibenarkan meminta dokumen identiti pelawat (bagi tujuan rekod butiran) di premis persendirian sahaja seperti di kondominium dan komuniti berpagar yang formal.]

*[Peruntukan Peraturan 7 Peraturan-Peraturan Pendaftaran Kebangsaan 1990 memperuntukkan bahawa hanya seorang pegawai pendaftaran, pegawai polis, pegawai kastam, pegawai tentera atau pegawai lain yang diberi kuasa bertulis oleh Ketua Pengarah Pendaftaran sahaja yang dibenarkan untuk meminta dan memeriksa identiti seseorang dengan mengemukakan kad pengenalan.]

(Terimakasih & Penghargaan kpd KDN)

http://www.moha.gov.my/images/maklumat_perkhidmatan/pekeliling_agensi_persendirian/pekeliling_4.pdf


"Syarikat Kawalan Keselamatan hanya boleh meminta dokumen identiti pelawat semata-mata bagi tujuan semakan dan rekod kemasukan ke premis dan kemudian mengembalikannya kepada pelawat selepas identiti mereka direkodkan" - ini hanya dibenarkan di premis persendirian sahaja dan tidak termasuk kediaman awam seperti komuniti berpagar yang tidak formal. (Sila ambil maklum)*


Justeru, pengawal keselamatan hanya boleh meminta dokumen identiti pelawat yang hendak memasuki premis persendirian sahaja (seperti di kondominium dan komuniti berpagar yang formal sahaja). Pengawal keselamatan tidak dibenarkan meminta dokumen identiti di kediaman awam.


Secara ringkas, syarat-syaratnya adalah seperti berikut:


1) Pengawal keselamatan dibenarkan meminta dokumen identiti pelawat hanya di premis persendirian sahaja seperti di kondominium dan komuniti berpagar yang formal. (Ini tidak dibenarkan di kediaman awam seperti komuniti berpagar yang tidak formal).


2) Syarikat kawalan keselamatan mestilah berlesen dan berdaftar dengan Kementerian Dalam Negeri (KDN - Lesen Agensi Persendirian)


3) Pengawal keselamatan mestilah memakai pakaian seragam dan lencana sah yang diluluskan KDN (Lampiran 1 di bawah Seksyen 3 Akta No. 27/71 - Pengambilan Pengawal dan Pekerja)


4) Pengawal keselamatan mesti mempunyai KPPK (kad pengenalan pengawal keselamatan) yang sah dan telah melalui program latihan CSG serta tapisan keselamatan KDN.


5) Menepati semua syarat seperti terkandung dalam Lesen Agensi Persendirian dan Seksyen 3 Akta No. 27/71 yang dikeluarkan oleh KDN.

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Many so-called "Gated Communities" are in fact not formal gated communities at all. The guards (public property residences) cannot ask for your IC or license. But as for formal gated communities (private property), they can ask for your Mykad although they cannot retain it.

First and foremost, gaining entry into "private property" such as formal gated communities or condominiums... is different from gaining access to "public property" or informal GnG residences. People need to know the difference.

Licensed security guards on duty at "formal gated communities" have the right to ask visitors for identification for record purposes only. However, security guards at "informal gated communities" do not. In the first place they have no right to block anyone from access to any "public property" residences. 

(For example, MBPJ guidelines only allow the security guards at informal "GnG" to take down the vehicle's registration no - that's all).  Ethical RAs will follow "the rule of law" but corrupt ones will not as they have their personal agenda. People who are not aware of their rights or the laws will be bullied.

As for informal gated communities (non private property), they have no right to ask for your IC or driving license. (They have no right to stop you from gaining access to a "public property" in the first place - it is illegal for non-strata properties to block roads).

All "informal G&G residences" under "individual-title" are categorized as under public property and not private property. (Examples here would be all the double-storey link houses in Setia Alam and Bandar Bukit Raja).

Know your rights - the security guard cannot stop you from entering an informal GnG residence (public property), or ask any resident to register each time they want to go home even if they do not join the RA's questionable scheme. They also have NO right to ask the public for their MyKad or driving licence when they want to enter any public property such as an informal gated residence. (That's why it's being termed as "public property" - it belongs to the public, no need for MyKad).

[Only security guards on duty at "formal G&G residences" can ask for your MyKad or driving license. They have the right to do so at "private property" or "strata-titled properties" such as condominiums and formal gated communities. They can ask for your identity for the sole purpose of recording your particulars and then returning it immediately, if you want to gain access to visit your friends or family there. They also cannot retain your MyKad or take a picture of it. (Examples of formal gated community here would be Setia Eco Park).